<Rant> Club Days are Over

[PorkChopExpress]

One more point on something in the original post that has not been discussed yet - I think there is also a difference between pitching for bottle service as a single person vs. doing so as a couple. When you're married, the cost of bottle service is doubled instantly, since you're paying for two people out of the same pool of funds.

I made my first trip to Vegas as a married man with my wife last month - and the bottom line is that the two of us just aren't going to drink a bottle's worth of vodka by ourselves. (Nor would I want her to try - if she starts throwing up, guess who's going to have to hold her hair and take care of her? That's married life!) All we wanted was to have a few drinks, dance, and have some fun. I'd much rather contact a host, get on a guestlist or give him a handshake to skip the line, and spend my $750 - $950 per night elsewhere.

Good point though about places getting over crowded without a table - we avoided Hakk for just that reason.

[Spock]

I enjoy bottle service at a top club w/ a good table with music I enjoy and a group of about 6 (on weekends). I value this experience at $300pp. I don't value it at $370pp or $470pp. I will pay $300pp with a smile if it can be found. But I have decided that is my limit. I don't care that the same bottle costs $25 in the liquor store. I'm not paying $300 for the bottle. I am paying to drink it in a top club w/ great service, yada yada.

To each his own. If the clubs can get $370 or $470 pp, by all means they should charge it. They just won't be getting it from me anymore. I hit my limit.

This doesn't mean I am done with Vegas, just this aspect of Vegas.

BTW, if I was single, I might have a higher limit. But $300pp really means $600 for the two of us (or $740 or $940).

[Brooklyn Marc]

This thread has everything you could want! Lol. EVERYBODY has valid points, and I admit I didn't really think about it in terms of if I were married. I doubt that most women, though I have run into a few, could help me plow through a whole bottle in a truly significant way with just the two of us and yeah while I am hesitant to get into the literal economics of it, obviously SOMEBODY is willing to consisitently pay these prices.

Spock I don't think anybody is really faulting you for your rant.

[Cle]

FWIW to you guys, last time I stayed at MGM in a terrace suite for 3 nights, Total room cost at retail was $3300. I partied my ass off a Hak and spent a little over 5k for the night. I also went to light and spent $1500. My room was comped completely from that so play your cards right. All in all I spent $6500 and got $9800 in return. Might be more money than most want to spend, but take into consideration the comps you can potentially get on the back end into the equation and it'll make you feel a little better about your decision.

[Spock]

I doubt that most women, though I have run into a few, could help me plow through a whole bottle in a truly significant way with just the two of us.

Agreed, but 3 couples can come close to finishing off two bottles. We had a $1500 Min, which equates to $2200 after all the tips and tax. To reach this minimum, we had 2 bottles of Vodka, 10 beers, red bull and bottled water. We still came up about $50 shy of the minimum. We did not finish the 2nd bottle of vodka (came close); my buddy took what was left of that bottle back to his place. We drank 3 of the beers in the club and took the rest as travelers (doubt any were drank in full -- one is still in the fridge in my condo). All the water and red bull was drank.

This is more than enough booze (could have done without the beer). And like I said, for $300pp, it is worth it to me (if the service/table is good and music is right). It's just too steep at current rates.

[WC_racer]

Maybe start looking at lounges to hang out at.

[Maximus]

FWIW to you guys, last time I stayed at MGM in a terrace suite for 3 nights, Total room cost at retail was $3300. I partied my ass off a Hak and spent a little over 5k for the night. I also went to light and spent $1500. My room was comped completely from that so play your cards right. All in all I spent $6500 and got $9800 in return. Might be more money than most want to spend, but take into consideration the comps you can potentially get on the back end into the equation and it'll make you feel a little better about your decision.

Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly, but are you implying you got comped the room because of how much you spent at Hakkasan+Light, clubs in MGM properties? I've never heard of that.

[headstrong]

I really don't see the point in getting bottle service as a couple, especially married. Not that there's anything wrong with that , I just wouldn't do it with my wife (unless we were celebrating something). My wife and I would hit gambling, site seeing, bars, and maybe pub crawls in vegas to meet all kinds of people.

I agree with the pricing, but it's all supply demand. For the most part, I am pretty much priced out of the high end clubs, (especially with my cheap friends) and will continue to stick to the Tryst, 1oak's of the scene (and they play music that better fits me anyways).

[Brooklyn Marc]

Agreed there is NOTHING wrong with the Tryst and 1Oaks of the worlds, some of my best nights and the musice suits me way better. I get why people like the Haks etc. they are gorgeous places, but yeah I don't think they are worried about anyone's budget concerns on the busy nights.

[BayAreaOlli]

Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly, but are you implying you got comped the room because of how much you spent at Hakkasan+Light, clubs in MGM properties? I've never heard of that.

Actually that is possible, some clubs allow you to charge what you are spending at the club to your hotel room if you are staying at their or an associated hotel. Then if you have your players card connected to the room, you will earn players points/comps for whatever you have on your room bill. Getting $3300 worth of rooms comped for spending $6500 at the club seems a bit high though, so my best guess it he either also gambled while there or he already had a good standing with MGM or got lucky.

[Kinar100]

Actually that is possible, some clubs allow you to charge what you are spending at the club to your hotel room if you are staying at their or an associated hotel. Then if you have your players card connected to the room, you will earn players points/comps for whatever you have on your room bill. Getting $3300 worth of rooms comped for spending $6500 at the club seems a bit high though, so my best guess it he either also gambled while there or he already had a good standing with MGM or got lucky.

Is there a difference in using Mlife card and charging it to your room and using Mlife card and bringing the bill to the counter? I guess either way the bill gets paid.

I did use my bill for LIGHT in march at Mlife counter and it bumped me up quite a lot.

I had never done BS until Jan 4th of this year at the age of 25. Since then I have done it 4 times. I am not made of cash and each time the 300-$400 is definitely a haymaker to the bank account.

I like skipping the line but MOST OF ALL I like being able to dance on a couch with girls in a dark noisy crowded place and have no one tell me I can't. I can pay 50-$100 for GA and try to get a girl (or guys i guess for the sake of devils advocacy) to let me dance on their couch but Id rather just pay the extra couple hundred for drinks and 6 hours of couch dancing. I am going to pay $50 + $100 for booze anyways. Might as well drop $300 to look cooler and...you guessed it! Dance on a couch.

There is just something about being all dressed up and fist bumping on my own rental couch that I love. I dunno. I like fist bumping and i am usually pretty energetic and when i am higher than everyone else I feel like I am the king of the fist bumpers.

[Cle]

Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly, but are you implying you got comped the room because of how much you spent at Hakkasan+Light, clubs in MGM properties? I've never heard of that.

Anything at any MGM resort is part of the Mlife program. Every $ spend at any MGM resort if 25 points, $6500 will instantly bring your to platinum status.

[Cle]

Actually that is possible, some clubs allow you to charge what you are spending at the club to your hotel room if you are staying at their or an associated hotel. Then if you have your players card connected to the room, you will earn players points/comps for whatever you have on your room bill. Getting $3300 worth of rooms comped for spending $6500 at the club seems a bit high though, so my best guess it he either also gambled while there or he already had a good standing with MGM or got lucky.

Yea i'm sure it helps that I was platinum at the beginning of my trips (NOR now) but if you play your cards right - assuming you go there at least once a year, with tier credits and bonus credits you'll have high room comps and invites. MGM has actually been making a push for people to spend money in their clubs and has been rewarding tons.

[Cle]

Is there a difference in using Mlife card and charging it to your room and using Mlife card and bringing the bill to the counter? I guess either way the bill gets paid.

Here's my thing with this - If you charge it to the room you never get to see a Mlife member face to face, and that's kinda what they bank on. So to me, I take the receipt right to the counter and say "how bought a comp for the night?" I haven't been turned down once. Without seeing a person face to face and just going up at the end of your trip they don't see the same value in comping you as they would when they see you still have more "spending" left on your trip.

[BayAreaOlli]

Here's my thing with this - If you charge it to the room you never get to see a Mlife member face to face, and that's kinda what they bank on. So to me, I take the receipt right to the counter and say "how bought a comp for the night?" I haven't been turned down once. Without seeing a person face to face and just going up at the end of your trip they don't see the same value in comping you as they would when they see you still have more "spending" left on your trip.

So I can actually take my club receipt with my MLife card to a MLife counter and get credit for it even if I don't stay at a MGM hotel? Damn I didn't know that, heck that will help a lot when I come in a few weeks.