Marquee Nightclub - Do they offer table minimums instead of bottle service?

[Sidekicknicholas]

$1500 minimum will get you 3 bottles of booze and lets pretend that puts you at $1500.01, just over your minimum.

$1500 x 25% for tax/tip (for waitress) = $1875 for that - add another ~$300-$400 for host/runner/security tips... you're at $2200 like Presto said

$1875 = 3 bottles = 102oz. = 68 drinks poured with 1.5oz. (102 drinks with a 1oz. pour)-- ~7-10 drinks per person depending the pour for that night if you don't give any away to loose women.

$1875 / $15 mixed drinks (guessing on the price here) = 125 mixed drinks but you have no idea how much booze you're getting in those drinks.


.... but.... while it looks like a better deal to get just get a min and single drinks I would think about the following things that might suck:
*Giving away drinks is a PITA because you've got to flag down your server
*Server will be pissed real quick having to run back/forth to the bar for you in what I assume will be neck-breaker heels
*You finish your drink and the server is gone, wait...... if you had a bottle, just pour another
* Security cannot say to ladies "Want to join these gentlemen at their table with bottle service"


I would still go for the bottle service just because of the ease once you're settled at your table with booze.

[Patsfan]

To start off, I do understand I'm in Vegas and that you have to pay to play. I also see lots of people blowing serious amounts of money that they have no business spending, so I'm trying to help my friends not do the same. I'd wager a bet that going through $3k in spending money over 4 days is a good chunk of change for most people traveling to Vegas.

If money was no object to most people, then a lot of the conversations on this forum wouldn't be happening. We would all have our assistants call the concierge and line-up the whole weekend. Most guys have a wife/gf/family they have to go back to after these fantasy weekends and don't want the bank account to be empty.

Anyway I like the conversation that's going on, so I'll continue with a few things......

1. We'll be going hard during the day, and we're not 22yrs old anymore, or on drugs, so getting 4 bottles for 10 guys (who are prob already drinking) at the club is going to be a serious problem. Probably complete blackout and then no pool the next day. It's happened before Sure, I could give away 50 drinks to girls, but I didn't fly to Vegas to host a liquor giveaway party.

2. No problem with the Patio. We'd prefer a spot to have as opposed to it being the party area.

3. I find it somewhat difficult to feel bad for a waitress asking her to get multiple drinks for me when I'm tipping her $300-400. I used to be a waiter and worked my ass off for a lot less than that. Granted they are in this La La Land world where they think they deserve to get this money just because they look pretty. I'm seen some work their ass off and some are absolutely useless.

4. I'd rather get a single bottle and then drinks and beer. No one in my party drinks the same thing. We have gin, scotch, vodka, tequila and beer drinkers. Who do you try to satisfy? If the answer is everyone, then we're talking a $10,000 night. Individual drinks and we're back on budget.


The bottom line is that we're just going to have fun and experience Vegas. Trying to look like ballers or have security brings girls over to us is the least of our concern. If I need to have some huge bouncer get a girl for me, then I have bigger problems to worry about.

If we don't get a table, we can get in for free by 11, and everyone drinks whatever they want and can go back to the room at any time. May not be *ideal* but it will probably result in the least amount of headaches.

Thanks for all of your input!!

[BMoreLas]

Sure, I could give away 50 drinks to girls, but I didn't fly to Vegas to host a liquor giveaway party.

I approve this message.

[Chuck]

To start off, I do understand I'm in Vegas and that you have to pay to play. I also see lots of people blowing serious amounts of money that they have no business spending, so I'm trying to help my friends not do the same. I'd wager a bet that going through $3k in spending money over 4 days is a good chunk of change for most people traveling to Vegas.

If money was no object to most people, then a lot of the conversations on this forum wouldn't be happening. We would all have our assistants call the concierge and line-up the whole weekend. Most guys have a wife/gf/family they have to go back to after these fantasy weekends and don't want the bank account to be empty.

Anyway I like the conversation that's going on, so I'll continue with a few things......

1. We'll be going hard during the day, and we're not 22yrs old anymore, or on drugs, so getting 4 bottles for 10 guys (who are prob already drinking) at the club is going to be a serious problem. Probably complete blackout and then no pool the next day. It's happened before Sure, I could give away 50 drinks to girls, but I didn't fly to Vegas to host a liquor giveaway party.

2. No problem with the Patio. We'd prefer a spot to have as opposed to it being the party area.

3. I find it somewhat difficult to feel bad for a waitress asking her to get multiple drinks for me when I'm tipping her $300-400. I used to be a waiter and worked my ass off for a lot less than that. Granted they are in this La La Land world where they think they deserve to get this money just because they look pretty. I'm seen some work their ass off and some are absolutely useless.

4. I'd rather get a single bottle and then drinks and beer. No one in my party drinks the same thing. We have gin, scotch, vodka, tequila and beer drinkers. Who do you try to satisfy? If the answer is everyone, then we're talking a $10,000 night. Individual drinks and we're back on budget.


The bottom line is that we're just going to have fun and experience Vegas. Trying to look like ballers or have security brings girls over to us is the least of our concern. If I need to have some huge bouncer get a girl for me, then I have bigger problems to worry about.

If we don't get a table, we can get in for free by 11, and everyone drinks whatever they want and can go back to the room at any time. May not be *ideal* but it will probably result in the least amount of headaches.

Thanks for all of your input!!

I don't see anything wrong with at least trying to contact a host and say hey, we'd like to have a table but I anything north of two bottles won't make sense for us. Can we go ahead and put in a reso for two bottles and see how it goes? Sounds to me like you wouldn't be devistated if you got there and a big spender snagged your table. At that point you can just grease in and hit the bar.

Here's a question: Has anyone ever approached a table that appeared to have a smaller group and asked to throw down some cash for them to add a bottle and let you join up with them? I know people on the forums do this ahead of time, just wonder if anyone has done it on the fly.

[LongIsland2Vegas]

Patsfan, this is my real big reason why I sugggested just get there early stamped and come back later considering it's free of cost. Did my group have a blast at Marquee on the patio? Hell Yes, but the caveat with that was we went hard during the day at Tao Beach and when night rolled around nobody was prepared for a drinking marathon. We basically wanted to have a couple of drinks and chill which left us giving drinks away left and right. Just felt like throwing money away. I also was with a group of people who couldn't really agree on what to drink, and I can concur that one person in our party asked for a separate drink 3 different times in addition to our 2bottles and case of beer, and the waitress seemed annoyed by the 2nd time and said "why don't you just buy another bottle?" So I could see it being a huge problem if you have 10 different people asking for drinks.

[pantlessbellman]

Patsfan, this is my real big reason why I sugggested just get there early stamped and come back later considering it's free of cost. Did my group have a blast at Marquee on the patio? Hell Yes, but the caveat with that was we went hard during the day at Tao Beach and when night rolled around nobody was prepared for a drinking marathon. We basically wanted to have a couple of drinks and chill which left us giving drinks away left and right. Just felt like throwing money away. I also was with a group of people who couldn't really agree on what to drink, and I can concur that one person in our party asked for a separate drink 3 different times in addition to our 2bottles and case of beer, and the waitress seemed annoyed by the 2nd time and said "why don't you just buy another bottle?" So I could see it being a huge problem if you have 10 different people asking for drinks.

At which point you say "Hunny, being pretty got you the job, serving me makes you money, now be a doll and get me another drink." I know its Vegas, but those fucking girls earn about $200+ a table times however many tables she has, she has no fucking right to have an attitude about taking an order, after all shes a server. Now I'd understand a bit of frustration in taking 10 guys ordering 4-10 drinks per guy, especially when they could easily just get a bottle (let's face it were not in a restaurant where everyone takes there seat and doesn't get up, not to mention getting a tray from the bar to the table in a crowded club). But asking for a drink or two in addition to the bottles, drop the attitude and get my drink.

[tc3]

To start off, I do understand I'm in Vegas and that you have to pay to play. I also see lots of people blowing serious amounts of money that they have no business spending, so I'm trying to help my friends not do the same. I'd wager a bet that going through $3k in spending money over 4 days is a good chunk of change for most people traveling to Vegas.

If money was no object to most people, then a lot of the conversations on this forum wouldn't be happening. We would all have our assistants call the concierge and line-up the whole weekend. Most guys have a wife/gf/family they have to go back to after these fantasy weekends and don't want the bank account to be empty.

Anyway I like the conversation that's going on, so I'll continue with a few things......

1. We'll be going hard during the day, and we're not 22yrs old anymore, or on drugs, so getting 4 bottles for 10 guys (who are prob already drinking) at the club is going to be a serious problem. Probably complete blackout and then no pool the next day. It's happened before Sure, I could give away 50 drinks to girls, but I didn't fly to Vegas to host a liquor giveaway party.

2. No problem with the Patio. We'd prefer a spot to have as opposed to it being the party area.

3. I find it somewhat difficult to feel bad for a waitress asking her to get multiple drinks for me when I'm tipping her $300-400. I used to be a waiter and worked my ass off for a lot less than that. Granted they are in this La La Land world where they think they deserve to get this money just because they look pretty. I'm seen some work their ass off and some are absolutely useless.

4. I'd rather get a single bottle and then drinks and beer. No one in my party drinks the same thing. We have gin, scotch, vodka, tequila and beer drinkers. Who do you try to satisfy? If the answer is everyone, then we're talking a $10,000 night. Individual drinks and we're back on budget.


The bottom line is that we're just going to have fun and experience Vegas. Trying to look like ballers or have security brings girls over to us is the least of our concern. If I need to have some huge bouncer get a girl for me, then I have bigger problems to worry about.

If we don't get a table, we can get in for free by 11, and everyone drinks whatever they want and can go back to the room at any time. May not be *ideal* but it will probably result in the least amount of headaches.

Thanks for all of your input!!

I dont think you are going to be happy with the level of service your group gets if you plan on buying various drinks (not bottles).

If you are set on this I would recomend speaking to a host upfront and explaining what you want to do. I would also confirm that the waitress is going to be available for your group all night. Maybe the host can set up 2 waitresses or something to keep the liquor flowing.

in my experience the waitress is usually good about making drinks at the table but I dont recall a time when a waitress made every drink for the entire evening. We usually end up making our own when she isnt around.

I can see this going from bad to worse really fast because its not the usual course of business. Might ruin the entire night.

[McNulty]

I want to add my 2 cents here.

1st the idea and attitude that she is your server, deal with it, will have you most likely on everyone's radar as "those guys" meaning the bouncers might be looking for a reason to run you from the club, especially if you are on a cheap minimum and not tipping out security and the host up front, which doesnt sound like part of your $200 a night budget. And if a host gets 10 guys $1500 min he will be looking for a good handshake. If you do get tables I would get 1 bottle of vodka, 1 bottle of brown liquor and beer, everyone may have their preference but any group of guys should be able to make that work and find a drink they like.

2nd if you are doing just drinks no bottles you could well overspend, or well underspend because as people are circulating the bar they might just hit a bar since "its the same price" as the table, then you come in below the minimum or some people over their individual budget and then a MAJOR hassle at the end of the night arguing over who had what.

Honestly 30k for 4 nights between 10 guys is a decent budget if you are really just looking at day and night clubbing it is the rest of the stuff that will kill it. If they really want the full experience like it sounds something has to give, it might be the budget, or it can be on the club end, take your stamp at 1030 and come back later without a table, it can be doing a regular pool one day instead of dayclubs, less gambling, maybe make the good dinner night a night you do places like carnival court and gambling over a full nightclub experience.

I Would love to see what you have planned for the whole weekend honestly to see what kind of estimates you have elsewhere to make sure nobody is going to be disappointed by budget issues and to see if we can help out.

It really sounds like your best play might be the stamp go back to have a few more in the room plan for this night, especially if you cannot agree on what to order in terms of bottles

[presto]

+1 on both those posts above me. the waitress can disappear for periods at a time.. so have fun waiting for drinks when she isnt there.

[tombrokaw]

eh? if you aren't going to vegas to talk to hot women and act the fucking baller, then what are you there for?

To have a fun, chill time with your buddies?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that but when I want to do that I do it closer to home where it's cheaper but just as effective.

[ashroid]

To start off, I do understand I'm in Vegas and that you have to pay to play. I also see lots of people blowing serious amounts of money that they have no business spending, so I'm trying to help my friends not do the same. I'd wager a bet that going through $3k in spending money over 4 days is a good chunk of change for most people traveling to Vegas.

If money was no object to most people, then a lot of the conversations on this forum wouldn't be happening. We would all have our assistants call the concierge and line-up the whole weekend. Most guys have a wife/gf/family they have to go back to after these fantasy weekends and don't want the bank account to be empty.

Anyway I like the conversation that's going on, so I'll continue with a few things......

1. We'll be going hard during the day, and we're not 22yrs old anymore, or on drugs, so getting 4 bottles for 10 guys (who are prob already drinking) at the club is going to be a serious problem. Probably complete blackout and then no pool the next day. It's happened before Sure, I could give away 50 drinks to girls, but I didn't fly to Vegas to host a liquor giveaway party.

Neither am I, but I do agree with you on a liquor giveaway party to bottle whores.

2. No problem with the Patio. We'd prefer a spot to have as opposed to it being the party area.

3. I find it somewhat difficult to feel bad for a waitress asking her to get multiple drinks for me when I'm tipping her $300-400. I used to be a waiter and worked my ass off for a lot less than that. Granted they are in this La La Land world where they think they deserve to get this money just because they look pretty. I'm seen some work their ass off and some are absolutely useless.

True to this. My second time doing bottle service was by far the worst time. I made it known to the security, host and manager that our waitress was the biggest bitch I'd ever met at that time. She was unwilling to make any drinks for us, take pictures with us, etc. I made it known that I didn't want any tip to go to her. I never saw her again. I don't know what happened to her, but I hope she got fired.

4. I'd rather get a single bottle and then drinks and beer. No one in my party drinks the same thing. We have gin, scotch, vodka, tequila and beer drinkers. Who do you try to satisfy? If the answer is everyone, then we're talking a $10,000 night. Individual drinks and we're back on budget.

If you're trying to satisfy everyone, it's not going to happen. Don't bother getting table service then, because your server will not be able to serve individual drinks to your table all night long. They have to manage more than one table, unless you're willing to drop a large tip to the host and server. But, it sounds like you're on a budget, so you can't discard that thought. I'd suggest then skipping bottles and just pre-drinking in your room. It'll be the least headache for you in the end.

The bottom line is that we're just going to have fun and experience Vegas. Trying to look like ballers or have security brings girls over to us is the least of our concern. If I need to have some huge bouncer get a girl for me, then I have bigger problems to worry about.

If we don't get a table, we can get in for free by 11, and everyone drinks whatever they want and can go back to the room at any time. May not be *ideal* but it will probably result in the least amount of headaches.

I think you just answered your own question.

Thanks for all of your input!!

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[Whiggi]

So I could see it being a huge problem if you have 10 different people asking for drinks.

At which point you say "Hunny, being pretty got you the job, serving me makes you money, now be a doll and get me another drink."

Would you really say that to the waitress?......... really?
It is a huge problem considering its a busy club, having to run back and forth for 10 guys who are each on what many in the club scene would consider sweet fuck all money (no offense).
heres 2 options.
1: Tell your friends to stop bitching about how they prefer gin or scotch or that delightful little pink drink they order when none of their friends is looking, and man up and just get a bottle and enjoy the night.
2: Tell your friends to get their shit together and save a bit of money for the night out. I mean seriously, it costs me 1600 to get to vegas, Ive got bills to pay, and I owe the bank a ridiculous amount. Just get everyone to put aside some money every week coming up to the trip. Budgeting is not hard, just have a few less beers per week, or stay home one weekend. I dont know what your lifestyle is so those might not be relevant. Find something you dont need and cut it for awhile. Before you know it the $200 budget will expand greatly.

Vegas is how it is, hot women make tons of money, and guys spend tons of money. Its not gonna change. If you truly wanna have a good time you are gonna have to get out of the mentality of, im gonna tip very little and that bitch is just gonna have to shut up and do her job. Cause when you get the bad service (and no doubt you will), you are just gonna look back at what was meant to be a great night with the boys in vegas, as "a shit night because we were cheap".

I seriously reckon your best option is just getting the free stamp in and getting everyone to go up to the bar and order the ....decently priced beers, or vodka vodka redbulls from anywhere from $15-$28 a drink

Enjoy

[pantlessbellman]

So I could see it being a huge problem if you have 10 different people asking for drinks.

At which point you say "Hunny, being pretty got you the job, serving me makes you money, now be a doll and get me another drink."

Would you really say that to the waitress?......... really?
It is a huge problem considering its a busy club, having to run back and forth for 10 guys who are each on what many in the club scene would consider sweet fuck all money (no offense).
heres 2 options.
1: Tell your friends to stop bitching about how they prefer gin or scotch or that delightful little pink drink they order when none of their friends is looking, and man up and just get a bottle and enjoy the night.
2: Tell your friends to get their shit together and save a bit of money for the night out. I mean seriously, it costs me 1600 to get to vegas, Ive got bills to pay, and I owe the bank a ridiculous amount. Just get everyone to put aside some money every week coming up to the trip. Budgeting is not hard, just have a few less beers per week, or stay home one weekend. I dont know what your lifestyle is so those might not be relevant. Find something you dont need and cut it for awhile. Before you know it the $200 budget will expand greatly.

Vegas is how it is, hot women make tons of money, and guys spend tons of money. Its not gonna change. If you truly wanna have a good time you are gonna have to get out of the mentality of, im gonna tip very little and that bitch is just gonna have to shut up and do her job. Cause when you get the bad service (and no doubt you will), you are just gonna look back at what was meant to be a great night with the boys in vegas, as "a shit night because we were cheap".

I seriously reckon your best option is just getting the free stamp in and getting everyone to go up to the bar and order the ....decently priced beers, or vodka vodka redbulls from anywhere from $15-$28 a drink

Enjoy

If she is being a bitch then absolutely. But I'm also not the poster looking to order individual drinks. What I was saying is if I do need to order an extra drink or two, for instance we have vodka and somebody wants a scotch drink, and she gives me attitude and suggest getting an entire bottle then yes I would say something along those lines. I have worked in the service industry in HIGH end establishments all my life, service isn't hard to get right, I'm low maintenance, until I feel I'm being under served or poorly served. Typically I'd show it on the bill by being one of the few times in my life I'd tip less than 20+%, in Vegas you don't get that option. So yeah, I'd call her out or speak to someone above her.

[Patsfan]

I think after al is said and done we're going to get a 3 bottle minimum, out on the patio. Probably the best situation for our group and most people will be happy.

I never said I didn't plan on tipping out security, host, etc., but we have to keep everything else at a reasonable price. Works out to $500/day at the pool and night per person and then another $1000 per person for whatever else they're planning on doing. Most of the weekend wasn't specifically planned, but we may be buying up some extra Invasion wristbands, so we should be all set.

With regards to the individual drinks, if you don't have expectations of her being at your beck and call, it has worked out fine for us in the past.

[NoahRam]

Everyone's posts are so long, I couldn't bring my self to read half of them.

Seems like you got it all figured out and yes the 1500 tables your best bet on the Patio. If you want to use the majority of your spend on individual drinks then that's your choice. But yes, make the host and waitress aware this is your plan so we can keep things smooth.