Amex Black Card Concierge Service

[AnthonyHyde]

idk one way or the other but conceptually it doesnt make sense
if someone has a black card why would they care about getting the table at a fraction of the cost? Given the amount of money us regular folks drop on nights out i would think someone with that kind of cash could drop 5-10k in a night easily.

This argument isn't valid.

First, just because you have money doesn't mean you need to spend it. Most people hate getting ripped off and no matter how much cash you have this won't change.

Second, when I go there's usually a big player in our group that gets everything comped, so we use our casino host to book tables and the location is always good and always very spacious.

Suppose 10 of us go into a booth that would normally cost $8k. Do you know how much alcohol that is? It's insane to think of getting like 15 bottles of alcohol for 10 people, most of whom are couples so it's not like we are inviting many girls back. On top of which getting tips comped is tough so you're still out of pocket quite a bit. Yeah, you could order $1,500 bottles of Dom but now you're just spending money for it's own sake.

Think of it this way, I can eat like royalty at McDonald's for $20, but there's no way I'm spending that much money there on myself. It's insane.

i agree and i disagree. i have plenty of black card clients and only a few of them will drop 10k on a dance floor at XS for 4 people..... not saying any names ...but most are very conservative. rich people are rich for a reason. also, it is very rare for a casino host to comp a night out. most nightclubs are owned separately from hotels, which means when a casino host comps something, the hotel/casino is footing the entire tab. rule of thumb is anything over a half a million dollar player will get a nightclub comp night out. also, casino hosts have no say so in where people are being placed in the club. we respect our minimums, so if a casino host for example sets up a 2k table for a casino guest, they're going to get a 2k table just like the regular guest.

as for the 10 people spending 8k comment... this happens a lot. its normally less people and more money is spent, and typically only one person is spending the money. you're looking at it as buying the cheapest bottles. one 3L of dom and 2 magnums will meet an 8k minimum. our dance floors ay hyde are anywhere from 5-8k every night. when i was at XS it wasn't rare on a fri-sat to have all 16 dance floor tables be well over 10k.

[BBB]

We used my brother-in-laws Black Amex for a table at Blush over a year ago. Bottles were $300 a piece on a Friday night (we got 2). Inside table. He also used it at Pure a month before that on a Saturday night, same deal, but they only got 1 bottle since they only had 3 guys. Not sure where the table was though. So, there are some discounts, but it's not at Tier 1 clubs.

Its possible that a host hooked up this deal (to gain the biz of a client with a black card), but I am pretty confident that Amex Centurion concierge had nothing to do with it.

The concierge is OK for booking standard reservations, but if you ask for something out of the ordinary they typically will get the same result as you would when booking yourself.


Some people make a big deal out of the card (like random gas station cashiers) but in Vegas no one usually comments on it at all. Last time I was at Tao when we checked in and I gave the host my card I'm not sure if he even noticed it.

Haha...well in that case it worked b/c we booked the following night at Surrender with the same host and spent a small fortune!

[jiggs]

I never knew jc had so many millionaires in its ranks. Must be nice to roll like that.

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

[Universal]

I never knew jc had so many millionaires in its ranks. Must be nice to roll like that.

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

[Chuck]

I never knew jc had so many millionaires in its ranks. Must be nice to roll like that.

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

Yup...and backed by your personal assets

[AnthonyHyde]

I never knew jc had so many millionaires in its ranks. Must be nice to roll like that.

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

ya, you're thinking about AMEX platinum.

[BrianF]

I never knew jc had so many millionaires in its ranks. Must be nice to roll like that.

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

Yeah I looked into that once and about fell out of my chair when I saw the minimum spend. That's why I said the people that own them are rich

[tc3]

nah, I think its a combination of income and credit rating. The $495 a year annual fee isn't too bad considering it includes global access to airport lounges.

But, I agree with the people that are saying if you use the perks people are planning on you rolling when you get there. Don't get the last table at Alex and then order lemon water and a side salad.

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

ya, you're thinking about AMEX platinum.

Anthony,

Next time a client gives you their black card check to see if its a Double Zero, or a Zero One card for digits 13 and 14.

Primary holders have double zero (00). Supplemental holders are zero one (01).

This always keeps things interesting when the supplemental card holders dont know this little secret.... Like if "daddy" got him the card, etc....

At the end of the day its still a black card, but it gives you a little insight.

[WT661]

Anthony,

Next time a client gives you their black card check to see if its a Double Zero, or a Zero One card for digits 13 and 14.

Primary holders have double zero (00). Supplemental holders are zero one (01).

This always keeps things interesting when the supplemental card holders dont know this little secret.... Like if "daddy" got him the card, etc....

At the end of the day its still a black card, but it gives you a little insight.

Money is Money to me. Don't care who's paying for it as long as I'm getting paid. LOL.

[AnthonyHyde]

AMEX Black card requires 250k+ yearly spend, a one time fee of 5k and a $2500 annual fee.

ya, you're thinking about AMEX platinum.

Anthony,

Next time a client gives you their black card check to see if its a Double Zero, or a Zero One card for digits 13 and 14.

Primary holders have double zero (00). Supplemental holders are zero one (01).

This always keeps things interesting when the supplemental card holders dont know this little secret.... Like if "daddy" got him the card, etc....

At the end of the day its still a black card, but it gives you a little insight.

hmm did not know that. I'm going to have to investigate now lol

[MangoPort]

$250k is a lot to spend on your credit card within a year. I know people that spend more than that but there's no way it would be on a credit card - wire transfer, cheques etc.

These people are probably in the entertainment business where you're buying cars for your 10 bestest homies and renting the entire floor of a hotel for a week.

Hard to see the people I know (all finance) doing anything crazy like that. Too bad, could use a car.

[Universal]

$250k is a lot to spend on your credit card within a year. I know people that spend more than that but there's no way it would be on a credit card - wire transfer, cheques etc.

These people are probably in the entertainment business where you're buying cars for your 10 bestest homies and renting the entire floor of a hotel for a week.

Hard to see the people I know (all finance) doing anything crazy like that. Too bad, could use a car.

I have two friends that have black cards. While both are very successful in what they do and make 7 figures, the majority of the spend is done on entertaining clients. But they reap the benefits on a personal level.

[AnthonyHyde]

$250k is a lot to spend on your credit card within a year. I know people that spend more than that but there's no way it would be on a credit card - wire transfer, cheques etc.

These people are probably in the entertainment business where you're buying cars for your 10 bestest homies and renting the entire floor of a hotel for a week.

Hard to see the people I know (all finance) doing anything crazy like that. Too bad, could use a car.

its a card that gets paid in full at the end of every month. its a CHARGE card not a CREDIT card. someone who is making high 6 figures or 7 figures easily has $250k worth of spending that they do in 12 months. anything from paying bills to eating out to buying a new car goes on the card.

[tc3]

I got this card about 3.5 years ago. It used to be pretty easy to get the card. All you had to do was rack up $250K spend on any AMEX card in 1 year and you could get a black card.

Now its by invitation only. Currrently they havent given out any black card invitations since 2010 and I hear they will be releasing a limited number of invitations soon. I heard for the new requirements they also raised the min spend to $500K and this needs to be mainly travel and entertainment.

[Chuck]

I got an invite last week.....for the Plum Card..LOL