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    Whenever you talk to people about Craps you run into one of two reactions... The people who have played it and understand it generally LOVE the game and are itching to talk about it. Then there are the people who have either never played, or went in blind and had a terrible time due to not understanding the game. They generally aren't fans of the game.

    Craps, at first glance, is an intimidating game... no doubt. It's noisy, fast paced, crowded, and seemingly a swirling chaos of chips, hands and dice. The beauty of craps is the underlying simplicity of the game... and how deceptively simple it can become once you understand the nuances of the game. Another factor that keeps people from trying the best game in the casino is the unwritten code of conduct that exists at a craps table.

    I started this post in the Casino Basics thread and it's grown (via contributions and requests for more info) to the point where I figured the forum would benefit from it being in dedicated thread. The first 3 "PHASES" are designed to help complete newbie be able to walk up to a table and play correctly. The 4th and 5th "PHASE" are designed to help beginner players flesh out their game a little and either capitalize on "hot" tables or help ease the pain of a bad one. Hopefully you guys find this thread interesting/helpful. If you have any questions/requests please fire away!

    I always start by explaining Craps in it's most basic form to my buddies... my 6 Step Craps system...

    MY 6 STEP CRAPS SYSTEM:
    1) Find Table
    2) Order Drink
    3) Place Bet on PASS LINE
    4) Drink
    5) If Bet goes away, replace it. If it multiplies, pick up the extra (this is the complicated part)
    6) Drink

    In all seriousness... if all you did was do the following then you'd have the basics of craps down just fine and would look like you knew what you were doing:

    CRAPS PHASE 1: PLAYING THE PASS LINE

    Walk up to the table and look for the "puck" . If it's on OFF and off to the side, feel free to put a bet (lets assume $10 is table minumum) on the Pass line in front of you. Congrats. You're playing craps.

    The shooter will throw the dice to the opposite wall. On the come out roll 2/3/12 are "Craps" or a loss (You will have to put $10 out again). 7/11 are wins (You will pick up the extra chips you just won). Anything else will "establish the point" meaning they will move the puck onto that number, ON side up. That is now your number. Root for it to hit before the shooter rolls a "7". Once the table is ON (puck on a number) then the only roll that can hurt you is a 7.

    TLDR: Put $10 on passline when table is OFF... wait for number to be ON...root for that number, and avoid 7. Simple enough?

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    CRAPS PHASE 2: TAKING ODDS

    You want to know what the best bet in the casino is? "Taking Odds" on a pass line bet in a craps game. There is ZERO house edge. Kinda cool eh? Yep. Once a number is established (ON Puck is placed on a number), you can place anywhere from your original bet, up to MAX ODDS (varies by table) behind your original passline bet (looks like you're placing it out of bounds.

    TLDR: Once your passline bet has a number ON, put $10+ right behind your passline bet to add 0% house edge action.

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    CRAPS PHASE 3: PLACING THE 6 AND 8

    Once you've mastered the art of placing pass line bets, and then taking odds on your bet... you're ready to move up to ways to get even MORE money in play. Let's be honest... sometimes it gets boring just rooting for that one number. The 6 and 8 are the best odds of the place bets. I suggest starting with them. Once the table is ON (remember the white puck?)... you set $12 on the table (Preferably in the COME bet area) and tell your dealer clearly "PLACE 6" or PLACE 8". He will put that bet in the right spot for you and congrats, you're now playing 6 or 8 too. Do NOT throw the money at the dealer. Do NOT try to put it on the number yourself. Set it in the middle of the table and speak clearly where he/she can see/hear you. Once you master 6/8 you can place other numbers.

    TLDR: When table is ON, pace $12 in center of table and say "PLACE 6" Or "PLACE 8".

    AT THIS POINT:
    At this point you've got a great basic knowledge of how to play craps. If you follow this guide you can walk up to any table and folks will assume you know what you're doing (and you do, now). However for those playing long session, or those looking to ramp up for big wins, there are some other options to flesh out your craps bet repertoire. Does this include playing in the "middle" of the table? No. Those bets are all terrible (double digit house edge) and should be avoided unless for sheer fun factor. Here are two ways you can adapt your play for a higher degree of "difficulty" and potentially fun.


    END OF BASIC CRAPS LESSON : BEGIN MORE DETAILED TECHNIQUES



    CRAPS PHASE 4: PRESSING YOUR BETS (Great for HOT Tables)
    Most gamblers are familiar with the term "Let it ride"... meaning to take your winnings and add them to your original bet in an effort to go "Double or nothing". Pressing is the same thing for placed bets in craps. Let's say you place $12 on 6 and it hits. The dealer will place $14 (winnings) behind to your pass line bet and leave the 12 out there. If you wish, you can say "Press my bet, please" and the dealer will up your bet on the 6 by one unit ($12..making it $24) and hand you $2 extra. You've increased your risk but next time that 6 hits you will be paid $28 instead of $14. You can take this to another level by continuing to "press 1 unit" for each hit. This can add up to BIG wins if the table gets hot.

    EXAMPLE:
    1) PLACE $12 on 6. Shooter throws a 6. You WIN $14 but say "press my 6". RESULT: $2 WIN // $24 Bet on 6
    2) Shooter throws another 6. You WIN $28 but say "Press 1 unit on my 6". RESULT: $16 WIN // $36 Bet on 6
    3) Shooter throws ANOTHER 6. You win $42 but say "Press 1 unit on my 6". RESULT: $30 WIN // $48 Bet on 6.

    Let's look at where things are now after 3 hits.. comparing normal bets and pressing 1 unit:
    NORMAL $12 BET: You've won $36 and have a $12 bet on the 6. Total $48
    PRESSING 1 UNIT: You've won $48 and have a $48 bet on the 6. Total $96
    If there is a good roll, you can capitalize with this exponential betting strategy.
    TLDR: If you're trying to win big. Say "Press 1 unit" every time you hit a placed number bet.

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    CRAPS PHASE 5: THE COME BET (Great for COOL/CHOPPY Tables)
    Ever been at a table where it seems like the shooter hits a 7 on the first or second roll every time? That is NOT fun and can cost you some cash quick. Luckily the game of craps has a bet built in to help offset that. It's indicated by the LARGE surface on either side called "COME" . This bet is designed to make the table act just like the "come out roll" on the pass line (table is OFF). See Craps Phase 1 above.

    When you play the COME, this is what happens (similar to a pass line bet):
    1) 2/3/12 rolled = You Lose
    2) 7 or 11 rolled = You Win
    3) Anything else, and bet goes to that number as if placed (Yes, you can take odds ala CRAPS Phase #2 above)

    What this means is instead of, say, placing 6 and 8, exposing yourself to 3 bets immediately. Now you're "protected" somewhat by at least getting a win on that COME bet if a 7 is rolled immediately. Thus somewhat offsetting the "Choppy Table".

    EXAMPLE: Let's assume the shooter throws a 5 on the come out roll, and then a 7. Let's also assume you're placing the 6 and 8 as stated in PHASE #3 above.

    NORMAL CRAPS: To Start you place $10 on pass line
    ROLL IS A 5: You put $10 in odds behind your pass line then place $12ea on 6 and 8 (TOTAL RISK: $44)
    ROLL IS A 7: You lose all your bets (TOTAL LOSS $44)

    PLAYING "COME BET" : To Start you place $10 on the pass line
    ROLL IS A 5: You put $10 in odds behind your pass line bet then place $10 on COME (TOTAL RISK: $30)
    ROLL IS A 7: You LOSE your $10 pass line and $10 odds. Your $10 COME bet pays $10. (TOTAL LOSS: $10)
    NOTES:
    • Most folks will only play 2 COME bets after the number is established.
    • If your bankroll supports, it's smart to take odds on COME Bets that turn into numbers...still 0% house edge on those!

    TLDR: If the table is choppy, place $10 pass line, then $10 on COME for the next two rolls to protect against a quick 7-OUT.
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    UPCOMING : Bachelor / Bachelorette Party @ MGM Signature Jul 30 - Aug 2 2015

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    BONUS INFO:


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    BASIC CRAPS ETIQUETTE
    1) Keep your drink away from the chip rail and NEVER over the felt.
    2) Keep your hands/arms/head/genitalia from extending beyond the chip rail where they can be hit by dice.
    3) Do NOT late-bet...reaching out to place bets while the shooter is throwing. Once the dice are out, stop betting.
    4) Pay attention. If you're paid, pick up the chips or they will be live action
    5) Do not say "seven" while the table is ON... that is the one bad number and people are superstitious.
    6) When shooting, using ONLY 1 hand pick up TWO dice, keep them over the playing surface (not chip rail) and toss them to hit the opposite wall.
    7) Don't be afraid to have fun. Cheer for your numbers. Yell "ATTA SHOOTAH!". Clap loudly. etc. Just try not to be TOO far above the average excitement level of the table. At the same time, don't be a slug if everyone else is partying it up.

    STUFF YOU'LL HEAR AT THE TABLE:
    1) DOLLA YO! - This is a $1 bet on the next roll being exactly 11. Bad bet but fun to yell.
    2) PRESS MY ______ - That player is doubling up a bet on a number they just hit. (See Craps PHASE 4 above)
    3) SAME BET - The player is declining "pressing" a bet and wants to pocket his/her winnings (not required to say).
    4) NO FIELD 5 - Dealers will often verbally reference whether the field bet has hit on a roll.
    5) HARD 6, HARD 8, etc - In Craps a "HARD WAY" refers to hitting that number by getting a pair. Hard 6 means 3-3 on the dice.
    6) TWO WAY - Splitting a bet half for the player and half for the dealers (as a tip). Example, a "2-way $20 Nine" is betting $10 on 9 for the person making the bet, and $10 for the dealers.

    Hope this helps guys... good luck at the tables.
    Wedding @ Riviera '06 • March Madness @ Mandalay Bay May 2010 • Bachelor Party @ Palms Jul 2013 • GF's Birthday @ Cosmopolitan Oct 2013

    UPCOMING : Bachelor / Bachelorette Party @ MGM Signature Jul 30 - Aug 2 2015

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    • #3
      Awesome write up!!! Learned to play craps a couple years ago and that's all I play on my trips now!

      One thing though...I could be wrong but I always thought when you say "Press 1 unit" they press it by one chip and and not the whole bet. Say you have $10 on 9 and when you hit say, "Press 1 unit". The dealer would then press your original bet to $15 (an additional $5 chip or unit) and hand you the rest of the winnings back. If you wanted to double that $10 to $20, all you say is "Press my bet" right?

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      • #4
        Well written man. A bet that a friend of mine would do a lot is wait for a 4 or a 10 to hit multiple times before a 7 and he lays the odds of the roller hitting a 7. Usually bets 50 to win 25 and I know the dice have no memory, but it is hard to hit multiple 4's or 10's before a 7
        Las Vegas is sort of like how God would do it if he had money. ~Steve Wynn

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ENC012E View Post
          Awesome write up!!! Learned to play craps a couple years ago and that's all I play on my trips now!

          One thing though...I could be wrong but I always thought when you say "Press 1 unit" they press it by one chip and and not the whole bet. Say you have $10 on 9 and when you hit say, "Press 1 unit". The dealer would then press your original bet to $15 (an additional $5 chip or unit) and hand you the rest of the winnings back. If you wanted to double that $10 to $20, all you say is "Press my bet" right?
          Thats exactly the way I always say it and seen it work
          Las Vegas is sort of like how God would do it if he had money. ~Steve Wynn

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          • #6
            Perfect guide! Thanks

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            • #7
              tnx

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              • #8
                Good info. Thanks for sharing

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                • #9
                  Great guide. This should help a bit with my next trip. Beginner craps player looking to win some cash!
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                  • #10
                    Well written man. A bet that a friend of mine would do a lot is wait for a 4 or a 10 to hit multiple times before a 7 and he lays the odds of the roller hitting a 7. Usually bets 50 to win 25 and I know the dice have no memory, but it is hard to hit multiple 4's or 10's before a 7
                    I have used this system on occasion, when it works, it's great, but you lose $50 every time the 4 (or 10) shows, so that can get expensive quickly if there is a constant stream of fours (or tens).

                    Here is a similar system for a super advanced player: Lay against the 4 (or 10) with $80 (plus $2 commission), and also place $44 inside. (That's a two-unit place bet on the numbers 5, 6, 8, and 9).

                    If the 7 shows, you lose the $44 in place bets, but win $40 for your lay bet. Result: net loss of $4. Essentially a push.
                    If the 5, 6, 8, or 9 shows, you win $14.
                    If the 4 (or 10) shows, you lose $80.
                    If anything else shows, it's a push.

                    The idea is to get two hits on all of the place bets from each shooter, and then you tell the dealers to pull down your bets. (Place bets and lay bets can be pulled off the table upon a player's request, unlike pass line or come bets.) In this system, out of the 36 rolls of the dice, you win on 18, push on 15, and lose on 3.

                    The kicker is, those 3 losing bets hit your wallet hard. Still this is an excellent system for an advanced player who has the discipline to tell the dealers to take down his bets, and make some decent money on a very choppy table.
                    Last edited by PorkChopExpress; 03-28-2013, 01:05 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the write up! I've always wanted to give craps a try, but the tables look really intimidating and I didn't want to look like a noob.

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                      • #12
                        thanks for the info!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PorkChopExpress View Post
                          Well written man. A bet that a friend of mine would do a lot is wait for a 4 or a 10 to hit multiple times before a 7 and he lays the odds of the roller hitting a 7. Usually bets 50 to win 25 and I know the dice have no memory, but it is hard to hit multiple 4's or 10's before a 7
                          I have used this system on occasion, when it works, it's great, but you lose $50 every time the 4 (or 10) shows, so that can get expensive quickly if there is a constant stream of fours (or tens).

                          Here is a similar system for a super advanced player: Lay against the 4 (or 10) with $80 (plus $2 commission), and also place $44 inside. (That's a two-unit place bet on the numbers 5, 6, 8, and 9).

                          If the 7 shows, you lose the $44 in place bets, but win $40 for your lay bet. Result: net loss of $4. Essentially a push.
                          If the 5, 6, 8, or 9 shows, you win $14.
                          If the 4 (or 10) shows, you lose $80.
                          If anything else shows, it's a push.

                          The idea is to get two hits on all of the place bets from each shooter, and then you tell the dealers to pull down your bets. (Place bets and lay bets can be pulled off the table upon a player's request, unlike pass line or come bets.) In this system, out of the 36 rolls of the dice, you win on 18, push on 15, and lose on 3.

                          The kicker is, those 3 losing bets hit your wallet hard. Still this is an excellent system for an advanced player who has the discipline to tell the dealers to take down his bets, and make some decent money on a very choppy table.
                          PorkChop, If you play this system by the book and pull your bets after a 5, 6, 8 or 9 are hit twice how much are you really accumulating in winnings over the course of an hour? It seems like a very slow process if you win at all.

                          I'm still an amateur craps player and by no means a statistician so correct me if I'm wrong. If your place bets hit 6 times in a row you win 84 bucks, then if the next number is a 4 or 10 your lay bet is lost and you're ponying up 80 bucks to replace the bet (plus the juice). That being said you need the shooters to roll at least seven 5, 6, 8 or 9's before a 4 or 10, Like you said in your post, 18 combinations to win 3 to lose, or 6:1, not 7:1, so you're still fighting the odds.

                          Lets go with a worst case scenario, you put your bets out, the first roll is a 4 or a 10. So now you're out of pocket 86 (4 for the juice when you originally placed your lay bets, 80 to replace the lay, another 2 juice on the new lay). You need seven 5, 6, 8 or 9's to make 98 bucks with will put you a whopping 12 dollars in the black. If a 4 or a 10 hits before you're 7th place bet win, you're back into a deeper hole.
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                          • #14
                            good stuff.

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                            • #15
                              So you talk about placing a bet behind the pass line after a number is given, but when does that bet pay out? or when do I lose it? what happens to the pass line bet after a number has been given?

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