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  • Awesome Trip with help from Jack! August 11-24 2011

    Hi folks! This is my first post here, and I never thought I'd post on a forum like this, but I happened on this site as I was flying to Vegas and found the tips and tricks here very helpful, so I thought I'd report back.

    About Me:

    I'm a 28 year old British gay guy who was solo in Vegas essentially for debauchery and good times. I'm not a drinker, if that makes a difference to anyone, so I'm pretty much oblivious to drink prices. Since I'm gay, and gay clubs hardly ever have rope lines and the like, I had no experience whatsoever in skipping lines and getting on guest lists etc. However, I wanted to see some of the legendary Vegas clubs, and I'm painfully averse to queuing and paying cover. So this website was a godsend!

    I stayed in the Rio for the first weekend, then headed to the Hard Rock from Monday to Thursday, then capped it off at the Blue Moon (clothing optional!) gay resort until I flew out Tuesday evening.

    The short version is that, using the tips here, I did not pay cover or stand in a line a single time during my almost two weeks in Vegas (except one night at Krave when a friend cancelled on dinner and I hadn't made plans to go out earlier). This seems pretty awesome to me!

    Here's where I went, what I did, and how it went:

    Voodoo Lounge, Sunday 14th August:

    I was staying at the Rio for my first couple of nights and so headed to the Voodoo Lounge. I dressed up nice in dark jeans, newly-shined shoes and a jacket. It was a Sunday, but there was a big convention finishing up there and so there was still a bit of a line. This line, betraying all my English upbringing and innate senses, I skipped, and spoke straight to the guy at the front. I simply asked what was going on there, how many people were there, who the DJ was, what the music was etc (as if I cared and had options - I did not). He told me there was a $20 cover. I then said I might be back with a friend, but I felt the cover was steep for a Monday and that I might find somewhere else.

    When I came back with my gentleman friend for the evening about 15 minutes later I approached the front of the line and the guy waved me in. No cover, no waiting. I have no idea why this worked but I just did what the guide told me, and it worked a charm! There were quite a few people on the open-air dancefloor and I had a great time dancing under the sky. Bonus: my new friend came back to my room with me .

    Pure at Caesar's Palace, Tuesday 16th August:

    This one was serendipitous. I moved into the Hard Rock (finding a $100 chip in the safe - I got lucky!) and I knew I wanted to head here for industry night, and mentioned it to the guy driving the shuttle from the Hard Rock Hotel to the strip. We got talking, and he called a friend to put me on the guest-list (and bagged himself a big tip). I made sure to get a contact person, with number, at the club (i.e. whoever it was he was calling) and I called them to confirm later. I asked for me and a +1 - always helps to be optimistic .

    When I got to the club (dressed well with a new friend I met that day in tow, of course!) I went straight to the rope past all the waiting people who were crowding up. I started chatting with folks and made sure a few beautiful ladies came to stand with us. When they opened the club (we were there quite early) I simply caught the eye of a doorman, announced I was on the guest list, and in we went, no cover, no wait.

    My friend and I took in the club (I thought it was quite beautiful), danced for an hour or so, saw the sights (MANY gorgeous boys!) and then split for dinner when it became too crowded to dance. As we left we walked past some people who had been in line when we entered. I am ashamed to say that felt very good.

    Piranha and Las Vegas Eagle, Wednesday 17th August:

    No line or cover at Piranha, and no people either. I left around 12:15 when there were still only 10 people including the staff. The staff were delightful, however, and the shirtless bartender was simply gorgeous.

    No line or cover at the Eagle of course - just a million crazy guys in their underwear (and some ladies). I checked my clothes at the door and was rewarded with a huge number "69" in Sharpie marker on my wrist. This turned out to be appropriate for the evening (none of your business!). Despite the terrible reputation of the bar (EVERYONE told me not to go), this was by far the best night of the trip from a dancing / clubbing angle. Very diverse, accepting crowd and completely raunchy, with some fantastic dancers. The old guys there made me feel beautiful. A leather daddy trying to suck me off at the bar was a bit much, but he was graceful when I suggested he should stop - mostly. Perhaps the mirror-ball pearlescent g-string was an unwise wardrobe choice, but if I can't wear it in Vegas, where can I? A riot - danced 'til dawn, almost, and met some truly unique fellows I will in all likelihood never forget.

    A big shout out to Frankie who worked the clothes-check, the guy in the stockings with no teeth who could do the splits all the way down, and "Kebler", a tiny southern dude in panties, a dog collar, and handcuffs (which he used to cuff himself to people and various pieces of bar furniture).

    Krave, Thursday 18th August:

    This is the one I hadn't planned, so I ended up paying $10 cover. But I made sure they put me on the guest list for Friday, where cover is usually $20 and there's huge lines. So it worked out well nonetheless.

    They had the small dance floor open and it was reasonably fun. The best gogo dancers I have EVER seen, with actual rhythm to go with stunning physiques. One guy span around on a bar towel in a way which I simply MUST learn. Excellent tip for wannabe gogos out there: do what this guy did and kiss each and every person who stuffs a dollar in your briefs, and SMILE while you're dancing. This guy must make bucketloads.

    Krave, Friday 19th August:

    Came back to Krave for their Friday extravaganza and skipped the line and the cover as I had organized the night before. This was a BIG line to skip.

    The whole club was open this time, and I had a great time dancing like a lunatic with people. 18+ night, and they had 18 18-year-old dancers, which honestly made me feel a bit creepy (tiny little things!). But the smaller bar was great for meeting folks and hanging out. And once again my favorite dancer was twirling like a madman, which was worth staring at for 20 minutes or so. Good night in all, although drinks are absurdly priced there ($5 Water? $6 Coke???).

    Tryst, Saturday 20th August:

    I had heard a lot about the legendary Tryst, and wanted to go on a real busy night, which folks told me is Saturday. I went to the nightlife concierge at HRH (hello Esteban!), engaged in conversation, and asked if there was anything he could do for me. He made a few calls and set me up, and won a tip (who knew it was so easy!). Again I made sure to find out who's list I was on etc. before going, so I had a name to give at the rope.

    I made it to Tryst early, since I heard the line was difficult to navigate. It was. It's basically one big line, and I didn't work out that if you are on the guest-list you have to essentially buttonhole one of the doorpeople who wander up and down the line plucking people out of it. Eventually I worked it out, leaned over and said "excuse me" to someone, and they said they'd "come back for me", which they eventually did. I told them whose guest list I was on and they let me in with a little signed receipt.

    I found the club itself disappointing. From the rapturous descriptions I was expecting a large outdoor area around the pool and waterfall, but in fact there's only a little walkway there with some tables. The dancefloor was, I thought, rather small and too crowded. The music was very standard and the decor, in my opinion, rather tacky. Vegas tends to try too hard, which I think comes off badly.

    The most upsetting thing was the anti-gay attitude I experienced. There's a big stripper pole in the club which lots of ladies (patrons, not professionals) were dancing on. At one point, a guy went up to dance on it too. He was physically removed from it by a large security guard. This happened twice while I was there - the second guy was manhandled from the pole quite forcefully. I asked the guard why guys weren't allowed to dance on the pole. His response: "Nobody wants to see that in here." This is a very offensive remark, and I told him so, before saying I was going to leave. To his credit, the guard did profusely apologize once he realized how offensive he had been. However, this simply should not happen in upscale clubs. I left with little respect for the place.

    Charlie's and Revolution Lounge, Sunday 21st August:

    I spent the early evening at Charlie's, a fantastic gay country bar which had drag shows and dancing cowboys. What more can you want than handsome men in tight Levi's? Then I headed to Revolution at the Mirage.

    Gay night at the Revolution, and I got onto the guest-list here through, of all things, Adam for Adam (a gay GPS app on smartphones). I had set up that I was going to visit Vegas on my profile and was contacted by the promoter for the club and invited. I said of course I'd be happy to come! I went, I danced, watched the dancers in their Union Jack ties, made some new friends, and thoroughly enjoyed myself. The "lounge" is well-designed, with a nice dancefloor and even seating for people who haven't paid a billion dollars! Got into a nice huddle with some very handsome boys and grinded away for hours!

    Conclusion:

    Many thanks to Mr. Colton for his expert advice! I easily saved $80 or so in cover charges and hours of time by following his guide, and massively increased my nightclub-confidence as well!
    Last edited by James Croft; 08-29-2011, 06:53 AM. Reason: Updates!

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    No offense but nobody wants to see guys dancing on stripper poles... Just reality.

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    • #3
      Sounds like an awesome time. I felt the same way about tryst.

      Originally posted by tr305 View Post
      No offense but nobody wants to see guys dancing on stripper poles... Just reality.
      I like it. They're just having fun too. Isn't that what it's all about. I'm a girl and watching a man dance (gay or straight) helps get my confidence up to dance my self.

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      • #4
        I am a very open minded person, but 99.9% of both men and women do not want to watch a guy grind a stripping pole at Tryst. That's just the truth...

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        • #5
          I'm not sure I want to argue about the amount of people who care about seeing a guy on a stripper pole (although I agree with Brontes_Muse (and what a great profile name!)). I'd only say that regardless of whether people like to see that or not, the way the situation was handled was 1) overly physical and 2) blatantly sexist and heteronormative. It makes people like me feel very unwelcome in what should be a space friendly to gay men and straight women alike. I found it unpleasant. The fact that the guy apologized is a clear sign that he realized he had said something wrong.

          This really was a very small downside of a great trip, though - I've added some details about other aspects too!
          Last edited by James Croft; 08-29-2011, 07:25 AM.

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          • #6
            Update - The Blue Moon!:

            I just thought I'd add a little section on the Blue Moon clothing optional gay resort, just in case any other forum members are thinking of staying there. In short, I had a wonderful time - the staff were extremely friendly, the guys were extremely friendly (I won't regale you with endless stories about how many guys I 'met', but it was LOTS), there was plenty of stunning eye-candy by the pool, and I even made some good friends who I'll keep in touch with. The best friendships I made were with two guys who worked the front desk who I ended up heading out to South Point Casino to go to a movie with - hooray for new friends!

            I almost wish straight folks could try out a gay resort sometime, because I think they'd be surprised by how well we tend to take care of each other, and how easy it is to meet new people. In general I found the pool at the Blue Moon, although it was in comparison tiny, SO much more enjoyable than the pools at the Hard Rock. This isn't just because you could have sex at this pool (although that goes a long way =P), but because it was a safe place to be yourself, and you don't have to worry about miserable homophobes ruining your day (as one did at the Hard Rock).

            Update - Shows:

            I also took in five shows during my trip: Penn & Teller, Le Reve, Ka, O and Love.

            Penn & Teller were extremely good - funny, exciting, good stage personalities and lovely enough to stay after the show and greet people. I preferred the subtle, beautiful tricks of Teller than the brasher ones of Penn. One particular highlight was Teller magicking golden coins out of water. Another was his "magical ball" which jumped through hoops, and his "shadow cutting", where he used a knife to cut the shadow of a flower and a real flower fell to pieces. I also really appreciated their general skepticism and honesty regarding the fake nature of their acts. I thought the bullet-shooting finale was a little weak, though - too standard a trick for the finale of such a fantastic show!

            Le Reve was absolutely the most beautiful show I have ever seen in my life - it easily eclipsed the other Cirque shows (and this is from a Cirque veteran). The aquatic theatre-in-the-round was amazing, with not a bad seat int he house (although I'd recommend NOT sitting close to the stage), and the stage-furniture was just mind-blowingly gorgeous. Only one scene in the whole thing pissed me off, which was a scene in which a group of male clowns ended up kissing each other and then made out like that was disgusting. NOTE TO LE REVE PRODUCERS - probably most of your male cast is gay! Don't put anti-gay messages into your show! Despite this small glitch the show is well worth a visit, particularly with a romantic date. The red-stiletto-heeled synchronized-swimming number was particularly impressive.

            I was underwhelmed by Ka, which I though relied too much on a simple story and mechanical wizardry and too little on actual circus acts. It was fun, but not one of the best, in my view. The scene in which the performers wing about on "arrows" which sprout from the mechanical wall was neat, but I was unmoved by the martial arts, which is honestly not what I go to see Cirque shows for.

            I need to see O again, because I was extremely tired by the time I saw it, and it suffered in comparison with Le Reve. It started extremely well with a powerful and intriguing opening, and I enjoyed the "narrator" character and his spindly, awkward walk. I also enjoyed the more melancholy sense that a lot of Cirque shows have. But I was put off that, unlike Le Reve, O is in a proscenium arch theatre and so I felt much further away. I also had pretty poor seats, which annoyed me since I spent far more money on this show than any of the others. I'll head to Vegas again and give it another shot .

            Love was fantastic - high energy, fun, great music (of course) and quite different to the other Cirque shows, which made for a nice change of pace. A fantastic trampolining section was particularly brilliant, as was an astonishing bungee cord sequence. Tip - buy the show soundtrack on iTunes and save about $12 and get bonus tracks that aren't on the CD!
            Last edited by James Croft; 08-29-2011, 07:11 AM.

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            • #7
              I'm not judging, simply curious. What would have happened at one of the gay clubs if a straight woman or straight couple had gotten up on stage dancing?
              Never offer an open bar to a Wisconsinite... =)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by WiscoBrad View Post
                I'm not judging, simply curious. What would have happened at one of the gay clubs if a straight woman or straight couple had gotten up on stage dancing?
                That's a great question! There were lots of straight people and straight couples at most of the gay bars I went to (Krave had MANY, so did Piranha, which had a group of four straight ladies who went there because they loved to dance and feel safer there. The Eagle even had a few!). They danced all the time, including on the podiums, and no one batted an eyelid. In SOME clubs I have seen women and straight couples refused entry. I HATE that - I think it's awful, and I tell the manager of that club right away if I see that happening. Generally though there is a large population of straight folks (particularly women) in gay clubs and they have a great time doing whatever they want.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for your trip review. Las Vegas definitely a Gay friendly Destination.
                  Cheers\_/*\_/Chappÿ

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                  • #10
                    Im cool with guys dancing on the stripper pole at gay clubs Tryst they dont really have the option, the bouncers kick you out. Thanks for posting up an awesome review/feedback!

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                    • #11
                      sounds like you had a fun trip!
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